Curse

RPGmaniac · Jan 05, 2007, 04:41 PM // 16:41

I was seeing a lot of those N/W with swords a lot the other day. I'm assuming they were trying to mask being a touch ranger by going necro primary instead of R/N which is assumed to be a touch ranger. The necro would auto attack me with his sword and spam touch skills every so often. I would just poison, cripple, and kite. I think I can see why they tried to run this and I give them props for thinking of ways to mask their true role, but they did a bad job there.

Burakus Lightwing · Jan 05, 2007, 05:08 PM // 17:08

To the OP,

You must remember the dates you mentioned. This is right after the holidays.

You have to take into consideration the number of new players that may be coming into GW around this time.

You stated a number of players had no elites - possibly due to the fact that they are new.
Bad builds - again new.
If you PvE you'll notice that some of the Rune prices spiked during this time as well - again new players creating demand.

So be patient, the same thing happened last year. New players will either find they don't like GW and leave OR they will get better as they play more.
In either case you'll notice that RA/TA will slowly get back to normal.

baz777 · Jan 17, 2007, 02:03 PM // 14:03

I half expected to see myself mentioned when I open this thread

Over the past two weeks I’ve taken to maxing out one line on the second profession on my axe warrior and allowing two skills from that line.

RA is where people try out different builds, either for serious evaluation, or just for amusement.

For me the weird and wonderful builds/combinations in RA, as opposed to the often very structured builds in HA/GVG, never ceases to amaze/amuse. 'Some' of these builds prove to be very effective.

Not all bad builds are by inexperienced players, some are experienced players who just need to make a few minor adjustments!

PyrAnkh · Jan 17, 2007, 02:10 PM // 14:10

Check out my topic in Alliance Battles: Why Kurzick Loses. Some pretty dramatical examples+screenshots there......
a/me with conjure phantasm anybody?
w/mo bonder?

Chaotic Legend · Jan 17, 2007, 06:22 PM // 18:22

Over the last few days I have seen:

W/R wielding a bow and using favorable winds(only used a bow the entire time).

A monk that was using orison of healing, healing breeze, heal area, shielding hands, and one other skill I don't remember. Those were the only spells he got off before he died.

A W/E trying to be an elementalist with fire attunement, conjure flame, flare, and firestorm and immolate.

A few other random ones as well but those were the ones I remember distinctly.

I Phoenix I · Jan 18, 2007, 12:20 AM // 00:20

W/Mo Zealous Benediction (not THAT bad I guess...but still sucks)

R/Mo with Precision Shot AND Guardian so that he doesn't get hit.

N/Mo Holy Wrath, Retribution, Death Nova spam

Mo/X Retribution user

Morganas · Jan 18, 2007, 05:02 AM // 05:02

Glad to know there are others who run bow warriors. I use flourish for energy management, and get a kick out of my teammate's reactions when I whip out my bow.

It sucks ass, but playing RA with a gimpy build can be fun sometimes. It's nice that there's a pvp format where you can just stick whatever the hell you want onto your bar and still be allowed to play.

Flashy · Jan 18, 2007, 11:24 AM // 11:24

so? some people want to have fun hehe like me

P/W

1. Agressive Refrain
2. Rush
3. Devestating Blow
4. Crushing Blow
5. Heavy Blow
6. "Go For The Eyes"
7. Leader's Comfort
8. Resurrection Signet

quite effective though

Mo/R

1. Protective Spirit
2. Dismiss Condition
3. Reversal of Fortune
4. Zealous Benediction
5. Signet of Devotion
6. Shield of Absorption
7. Healing Spring
8. Natural Stride

also quite effective(Especially Natural Stride) + the fun factor of Healing Spring

I just love to make builds like this but some guys are really stupid and yesterday I kinda embarresed myself in front of EW, rawr and eF :'(

2 Rt/R made a spike and I was bored like hell so I just joined TA and they ask my skillbar, so I pinged a random skillbar and didn't had the right equipment + attributes lol then they got a W/E and he needed to ping his bar too... And he had like Ward Against Melee on his bar and Foes and power attack

and then they gone and I was like: RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO this I'm not changing any attribute or equipment... so we went in and we faced the guilds I just named in 1 team and we got owned so hard and I monked at my worst so I really emberrased myself

stuntharley · Jan 18, 2007, 11:34 AM // 11:34

warrior using life bond it was in HA if that counts got a SS too =)

Infectious · Jan 18, 2007, 12:21 PM // 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuntharley

warrior using life bond it was in HA if that counts got a SS too =)

Not as stupid as you might think.....

Lucius2 · Jan 18, 2007, 03:53 PM // 15:53

have also seen some quitw funny things:
-e/r with pet, hammer, water headgear, he didn't use a skill
-me/r with favourable winds+many bow attacks+illusion of weakness as his only mesmer skill
-mo/r with bow attacks and stuff to heal; i asked him how much dmg he does and he answered up to 50-> Oo
-r/mo with ONLY heal skills: healing light as elite, he always pinged before the battle that he has 73 energy or something and had a wand+fokus ->+30 energy with on a ranger with only 1 energy reg ~_~
-a/w with primal rage
-mo/e with shock+aftershock+shield of judgement !?!?
-w/me with signet of strength+dolyak+signet of stamina+mantra of inscriptions
i mean already dolyak is enough but also the combo with signet of strenth and sig of stamina sux->if u attack sig of stamina ends->totally crap

Legendary Shiz · Jan 18, 2007, 07:59 PM // 19:59

I saw this one crazy monk with gale, then later I saw him with Roaring winds.

<3

Basically most healing monk builds are hilarious, healing breeze always makes me giggle. Only one other thing makes me laugh more. D sig wars.

urania · Jan 18, 2007, 08:12 PM // 20:12

saw w/r with whirling few days ago...shame he was in my team :<

Curar Partida · Jan 18, 2007, 08:20 PM // 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaotic Legend

Over the last few days I have seen:

W/R wielding a bow and using favorable winds(only used a bow the entire time).

Not as stupid as might think.
I actually use a build in AB which does alot of damage. The piercing recieved from strength is the main attribute in this build. I use a Vampiric hornbow with my build. FW with flurry. O.o. But as for RA, not so sure, 4 enemies ..... no go.

Divineshadows · Jan 18, 2007, 08:49 PM // 20:49

I'm sorry, but I have to comment on this lest it lead some players astray. I'll just put in bold everything wrong with this statement:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curar Partida

I actually use a build in AB which does alot of damage. The piercing recieved from strength is the main attribute in this build. I use a Vampiric hornbow with my build. FW with flurry. O.o. But as for RA, not so sure, 4 enemies ..... no go.

First, bows and daggers are very weak weapons. They are only slightly stronger than a caster auto-wanding. The reason that bows sometimes get used in PvP is for the utility of the interrupts (distracting and savage shot) and for condition spreading. Debilitating shot at high marksmanship is a good skill too. Bows are most certainly not used for damage. Daggers are used for the power of their dual attacks, the best of which is twisting fangs. Dagger auto-attacks, when not using attack skills, like bows are very meh.

Second, strength is the worst primary attribute in the game period. The added damage from the minor amount of armor penetration on attack skills only is so very little. 16 marksmanship does more damage on every hit than 12 marksmanship with 13+ strength. Still, you fail if you are trying to use a bow as a primary damage dealer.

Third, hornbows are the slowest rate of attack in the game. The fire once every 2.7 seconds. Recurve and longbows fire once every 2.5 (or is it 2.4) seconds. Shortbows and flatbows fire once every 2 seconds. A hornbow has worse DPS than any other type of bow. Spears have basically the same damage range as bows (14-27 vs. 15-28), but fire once every 1.5 seconds.

Fourth, flurry sucks. It makes your damage go down. Frenzy, flail, tiger's stance, burst of aggression, aggressive refrain, tiger's fury, and rampage as one {E} are all superior IAS (increased attack speed) skills.

Fifth, you're a warrior using a bow. You have one less pip of energy regeneration and do not get to make use of expertise. Expertise is the best primary attribute in the game and strength is the worst. You do the math on how often you'll actually get to use those 5 or 10 energy attack skills.

About the only valid piece of information in this post is that a vampiric mod was selected instead of a sundering mod.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curar Partida

Not as stupid as you might think.

Oh, it's as stupid as one could possibly imagine. I'm sure nobody had ever taken to the time to explain why that build is so bad though as it is clear that you had not seen the light. It's ok if you decide to laugh at yourself in reflection. Please remember to breathe while laughing though. Breathing is good.

taxed · Jan 18, 2007, 08:53 PM // 20:53

I had a D/Rt spirit spammer on my team last night....I saw 0 attack skills.

dirtydutch · Jan 19, 2007, 03:53 PM // 15:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendary Shiz

I saw this one crazy monk with gale, then later I saw him with Roaring winds.

<3

Basically most healing monk builds are hilarious, healing breeze always makes me giggle. Only one other thing makes me laugh more. D sig wars.

Dont giggle to much cus our litle leader likes that skill. He got a pr0 monk build for ha.

I so hate that monk build.

QuixotesGhost · Jan 22, 2007, 08:53 PM // 20:53

The very worst offender I've seen is a Warrior/Monk with Heal Area. Heal Area heals all creatures including your foes. Considering that a Warrior will often be closer to the enemy than to his own team, Heal Area will help the opponent more than his own team.

Franco Power · Jan 22, 2007, 09:44 PM // 21:44

Ok, I've seen rangers using ether feast, energy tap etc, but this guy pwns all,

He puts backfire on me, I'm a R/W by the way lol.

Had fun with him awel, tried to attack through whirling defense for 18 seconds then tried to chase me while i hit dodge, <3 AB is such a great place when you need a laugh.

Legendary Shiz · Jan 22, 2007, 10:08 PM // 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydutch

Dont giggle to much cus our litle leader likes that skill. He got a pr0 monk build for ha.

I so hate that monk build.

...

I wasn't talking about anybody from StP. I was talking about Divineshadows, and it was sarcastic.